Icon wrote:no, because were in the third dimension and we cant see or imagine a tesseract.
 you probably can imagine a tesseract bagman, but you still cant see it.
pat wrote:Because we're several meters tall, we cannot imagine things that are less than a millimeter tall.
Because we are stuck here on Earth, we cannot imagine what the Milky Way galaxy looks like from outside.
thigle wrote:of course it's possible. just needs patience, diligence & practice.
one can both imagine & SEE a tesseract. it is called EIDETIC IMAGERY. that means, that one can SEE imaginary objects also with eyes open, in quality undistinguishable from perceptual phenomena. this is different from hallucination, fantasy & daydreaming, and has been fairly well studied.
children up to 7 years usually have this skill, which is later pushed to periphery of consciousness by rational patterns settling in the mind.
anyway, one way or other, it IS possible to imagine as well as to SEE multidimensional objects.
well what about the colors we see... is our mind originaly without color set preference?
XVX wrote:If you think your brain is so mighty that it can visualize the fourth dimension, then, logically, you should be able to, right now, point to it for me.
pat wrote:XVX wrote:If you think your brain is so mighty that it can visualize the fourth dimension, then, logically, you should be able to, right now, point to it for me.
??? So, I'm thinking of a pink elephant right now. Want me to imagine pointing at it for you?
XVX wrote:A pink elephant doesn't require something beyond your experience to visualize.
If you can truly visualize a tesseract, then you can visualize the 4th dimension and then should be able to point to it with your finger in real life.
XVX wrote:Simply record your data and let us reproduce it.
batmanmg wrote:instead i ask, when you visualise 4d are you using 2d vision to do it (our regular every day eyesight)? or are you using 3d vision to do so?
thigle wrote:hey pat, some people just have hard time discerning doxa from ratio, so they think that barked out opinions are articulated reason. it usually doesn't help telling them.
dear XVX. i can preach as much as anyone here if i choose to do so. and i do when i find it appropriate. also, i do not need an idea of your background for it.
the only reason of people telling you that it can be done, is their good will and love, wanna let you know that you actually can loosen up your uptight mindass and let yourself at least glimpse a possibility of what you're missing by snapping onto your self-imposed limits. (which you even try to impose on others, which surely is not only rigid egoism but also a sign of repressed aggressivity)
so if you wanna learn what many already did, keep trying, listen to the experiencing and the experienced, and do not bother doubting.
otherwise you are persuading an eagle and shark that they can't fly and swim. not only they can, also, they don't understand you.
for those wild beasts, it's not a question of logic, it is existential truth deep under projection of logic. your contrary claim is for them as absurd & impossible as it is for them simple to dissappear in air and water by their impossible means.
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